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As president and ambassador of Fuller Theological Seminary, Mark Labberton takes the occasion of his travels to speak with a broad spectrum of leaders on issues at the heart of the seminary’s mission. It is Fuller's practice to allow conversations with our guests to be uncensored as a gesture of engagement in civil dialogue—a value to which Fuller Theological Seminary is deeply committed. We invite you to listen with hospitality, realizing that guests reflect their own views and not necessarily views in harmony with the stated mission of Fuller.
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As president and ambassador of Fuller Theological Seminary, Mark Labberton takes the occasion of his travels to speak with a broad spectrum of leaders on issues at the heart of the seminary's mission.

Jun 13, 2017

In this episode of “Conversing,” theologian and writer J. Kameron Carter discusses the complex interplay between racial logic and theology. He examines beliefs about possessions, the language of “master” and “lord” in scripture, and the “alternative practices of the sacred” within black Christian communities. Read more about the ongoing work of reconciling race: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/tag/reconciling-race/

Carter is the associate professor of theology, English, and African American Studies at Duke Divinity School and the author of “Race: A Theological Account.” He writes and lectures widely on theology, race, and black studies. Hear him speak at the Pannell Center’s 2017 Martin Luther King Jr. Lectures here: https://soundcloud.com/fullerstudio/sets/pannell-lectures


“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.


For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

May 9, 2017

In this episode of “Conversing,” author and teacher Dave Evans applies the discipline of design to the search for a meaningful life. He and Dr. Labberton consider the “collaborative process” of following God’s will, the role of humility in solving problems, and practical tools for anyone reflecting on their own vocation. Read more articles on vocation at https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/voices-on-vocation/

Evans is an adjunct lecturer in the Product Design Program at Stanford University, a management consultant, and cofounder of Electronic Arts. A coauthor of the book “Designing Your Life: How to Build a Well-Lived, Joyful Life,” he writes and lectures widely on design principles and vocation.

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.



For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Apr 11, 2017

In this episode of “Conversing,” pastor Albert Tate reflects on navigating the complexities of pastoral ministry. He and Dr. Labberton discuss personality-driven preaching, supporting younger voices in the pulpit, humility, an unexpected lesson from Pope Francis, and more. Read more articles on preaching at https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/tag/preaching/.

Albert Tate is the founder and lead pastor of Fellowship Monrovia, a multiethnic intergenerational church in Monrovia, California. He speaks widely on diversity in the church, intergenerational ministry, and more, and he serves on the Board of Trustees at Fuller Youth Institute.

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.

For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Mar 28, 2017

In this episode of “Conversing,” Mimi Haddad, president of Christians for Biblical Equality, discusses gender equality and women in leadership. She reflects with Dr. Labberton on the complex relationship between theology and real-life injustice, the social and economic benefits of women in leadership, and the pressing task of “dismantling theological patriarchy” in the church.

Mimi Haddad is the president of Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE) and an adjunct professor of historical theology at Fuller Seminary. She is the author of “Global Voices on Biblical Equality: Women and Men Ministering Together in the Church,” and she has been a leading advocate for women in leadership at Evangelicals for Justice, the Evangelical Theology Society, the Lausanne Conference, and more. Read CBE’s summary of biblical equality here: https://issuu.com/mutualitymag/docs/position_booklet_web

Dr. Haddad mentions Fuller professor Marianne Meye Thompson’s recent lifetime achievement award from Christians for Biblical Equality. Read more from Dr. Thompson and learn more about Fuller Seminary’s commitment to women here: http://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/fuller-the-bible-and-women/

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.

For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Mar 7, 2017

President Mark Labberton interviews Jeanelle Austin (MDiv ’13) and Lindsey Wright (MAT ’12) on implicit bias, gender dynamics in the church and workplace, and their hopes for the future.  Read more on Fuller’s commitment to women in ministry and leadership: http://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/fuller-the-bible-and-women/

Jeanelle Austin works for Fuller’s Pannell Center for African American Church Studies as operations director. A poet and natural leader, she often shares spoken word in All-Seminary Chapel to inspire the Fuller community to pursue gospel-centered justice. Learn more about the Pannell Center here: http://fuller.edu/pannell-center/

Lindsey Wright works for Fuller’s Brehm Center for Worship, Theology, and the Arts as administrative assistant. She is passionate about literature and writes about the intersection of the body, food, and spirit. Learn more about the Brehm Center here: http://fuller.edu/Brehm-Center-for-Worship-Theology-and-the-Arts/

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.

For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Feb 14, 2017

In this episode of “Conversing,” systematic theologian Willie Jennings (MDiv ’87) expands and deepens the conversation around racism and the church. He shares with Dr. Labberton how his parents taught him to stay rooted in the earth, his early frustrations with the “deep contradiction of racism” in the American church, and the complex connections between race and a theology of place. Read theological reflections on the topic of reconciling race here: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/reconciling-race/

Dr. Jennings is associate professor of systematic theology and Africana studies at Yale Divinity School and a well-respected lecturer and writer on the topic of race and theology. His book “The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race” (Yale, 2010) has received numerous awards, including the American Academy of Religion Award of Excellence. Read his article on the contours of an evangelical intellectual imagination here: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/the-fuller-difference-to-be-a-christian-intellectual/

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.


For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Jan 10, 2017

Wayne L. Gordon reflects with Dr. Labberton on his life as a pastor and founding president of the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA). He traces the history of the organization and his long-lasting friendship with John Perkins, and he suggests steps for cultivating “a faith that leads into engagement” and a congregation that weaves into the lives of its local community. Hear a variety of voices from Fuller Seminary on the topic of “The City” here: http://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/voices-on-the-city/

Affectionately called “Coach” by those who know him, Wayne L. Gordon is the founding pastor of the Lawndale Community Church in Chicago and the president emeritus of CCDA, a network of individuals and ministries nationwide who engage in Christian community development efforts. Through conferences, speaking engagements, pastoring, and teaching, Coach has worked for decades to help Christians integrate evangelical faith with social justice. Read more about politics, justice, and the church in this reflection: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/politics-church-world/

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.


For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Dec 13, 2016

After decades of ministry, John M. Perkins reflects on his legacy with Mark Labberton at the Christian Community Development Association conference. A steadfast leader in the integration of Christian faith and civil rights, Perkins draws on his memories to reflect on the deeper problems behind racism, justice, the redemptive quality of pain and his desire for the church to recover a gospel with “fresh relevance for our days.” For more on the the topic of reconciling race, visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/reconciling-race.

John M. Perkins is a passionate civil rights advocate, community organizer, and founder of the Christian Community Development Association. For decades, Perkins has worked tirelessly to address civil rights, racism, justice, and more—all through the lens of his evangelical faith. His life’s work is an inspiration to many, including faculty and staff at Fuller as the school continues to wrestle with difficult topics of race and justice. To hear community members reflect on their own experiences with reconciling race, visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/story-table-reconciling-race/

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.

For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Nov 15, 2016

What is the role of wisdom in our shared public spaces? Listen as Mark Labberton interviews Krista Tippett, the award-winning radio host and founder of “On Being,” on the importance of embodiment, insights from her decades of conversations with religious and cultural leaders, and more. For more on spiritual formation and wisdom visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/spiritual-formation/.

Krista Tippett is the founder of the Peabody Award-winning public radio broadcast and podcast “On Being,” an interview program on “the big questions of meaning” with leaders in a variety of fields. She speaks and writes widely on the intersection of religious and moral questions in public life and has received a National Humanities Medal for her work. Learn more about “On Being” at http://www.onbeing.org.

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton, visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/. For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

Oct 18, 2016

Today’s complex political climate is an opportunity to reflect on what a distinctly Christian approach to political leadership could look like, says Vincent Bacote. Dr. Bacote reflects with Drs. Labberton and Mouw on the virtue of moral impatience, the importance of active—and hopeful—participation in society, and the opportunity to reimagine what Christian political engagement looks like post-election. For more on political civility, visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/political-civility/

Vincent Bacote is the director of the Center of Applied Christian Ethics and associate professor of theology at Wheaton College. He has written and spoken on topics of Christian ethics, race, and social issues for Fuller in a variety of forms including a lecture at the 40th anniversary of the Pannell Center for African American Church Studies. Watch the lecture and more from the Pannell Center here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47XaAkO6rV8

Richard Mouw was Fuller’s fourth president and now serves as Professor of Faith and Public Life at the seminary. For years, Dr. Mouw has lectured widely on the subject of “convicted civility,” a method of political engagement that creates space for both convictions and generosity. He has written extensively on political engagement, and he continues to shape and inform Fuller’s voice within the political sphere. Read more of his reflections here: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/richard-j-mouw/.

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/.

For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at http://www.Fuller.edu/Studio.

Oct 9, 2016

How can Christians with differing political commitments discuss their views with grace? What is Christlike political engagement? Reflect on these questions and more as Fuller President Mark Labberton interviews President Emeritus Richard Mouw on the topic of political civility. For a reflection on the politics of the church, visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/politics-church-world/.

Richard Mouw was Fuller’s fourth president and now serves as Professor of Faith and Public Life at the school. For years, Dr. Mouw has lectured widely on the subject of “convicted civility,” a method of political engagement that creates space for both convictions and generosity. He has written extensively on political engagement, and he continues to shape and inform Fuller’s voice within the political sphere. Read more of his reflections here: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/richard-j-mouw/.

“Conversing” is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary’s fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/. For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.

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